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[edit]I never understood why she was mocked for what she said after she was assaulted. She got fucking clubbed in the legs by some lunatic.
This page focuses almost entirely on negative publicity Nancy Kerrigan received when she was in the National Spotlight. I recall more people seemed to like rather than dislike her. Rhesusman 02:40 May 18 2005 (UTC)
this page should be flagged for non NPOV. it is far too kind to her in my opinion.
- Agreed. I was one of the few who despised her, and it wasn't for any of the excuses provided in the article. She just annoyed me with her smug look. May not be the best of reasons, but hey it's the truth (and completely unrelated to the knee bashing incident) Etherealstrife 18:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- Nancy wasn't known for all this negative publicity. She was known as the girl who got hit by that horrible Tanya.
- Her SNL appearance also bumped Michael Richards, aka "Kramer" on Seinfeld ( which, at the time, was at its peak, ratings-wise and quality). SNL had a tough time getting Richards to host due to scheduling conflicts, and they finally booked him only to bump him to cash in on Kerrigan's five minutes of fame. Kerrigan's appearance tanked, (the opening monologue featured a lame joke about the Disney parade, where she said she didn't say "corny," she meant "horny") and Richards to date has never hosted the show and probably never will. (unsigned)
- Agreed that this is very POV... Surprisingly, the Tanya Harding page is much more NPOV. I disagree that Nancy wasn't "known" for negative publicity, and only known for being hit. She enjoyed a huge swell of support after the incident that carried into months of positive publicity. I used to think I was alone in disliking some of her comments (eg Disney World, Oksana Baiul) but I've since learned I was not alone in this. Truthfully, it was first portrayed as a sort of "All About Eve" type battle with Harding in the villain role - under scrutiny, Kerrigan's behavior did not match up with the idea of her being a classy "ingenue" - so the press began covering it as a "Catfight on Ice". Both women were portrayed as catty, not simply one. Noirdame 05:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Y'all sound like members of the Tonya Harding Trailer Trash Fan Club... and seemingly just because Nancy was blue-collar and didn't try to kiss up to the "America's Sweetheart" nonsense. Wahkeenah 11:48, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed that this is very POV... Surprisingly, the Tanya Harding page is much more NPOV. I disagree that Nancy wasn't "known" for negative publicity, and only known for being hit. She enjoyed a huge swell of support after the incident that carried into months of positive publicity. I used to think I was alone in disliking some of her comments (eg Disney World, Oksana Baiul) but I've since learned I was not alone in this. Truthfully, it was first portrayed as a sort of "All About Eve" type battle with Harding in the villain role - under scrutiny, Kerrigan's behavior did not match up with the idea of her being a classy "ingenue" - so the press began covering it as a "Catfight on Ice". Both women were portrayed as catty, not simply one. Noirdame 05:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I dont know how i got here.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.135.97.10 (talk) 13:46, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Kerrigan was a diva wannabe. Even before "the incident" she was rude and unnecessarily snobby to locals in her "blue collar" community, often closing the whole skating rink and going over her alotted ice-time. This frequent action forced youth skaters and ice hockey players to suit-up outside in the middle of winter. Her "personal" ice time often ate 30 minutes or more out of family skating events. She turned up her nose and eventually turned her back on that once loyal blue collar fan base through such actions. Showing her in an entirely positive light is not neutral and highlighting her well-documented negative comments about other skaters and her snobby, diva-like behavior is not only the right thing to do but it is also ABSOLUTELY necessary given that this is Wikipedia and NOT the Nancy Kerrigan Fan Club. Smokey Russell 19:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Someone plz add South Park Season 7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_Paper_%28South_Park_episode%29) reference.--Paulpro 16:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
From accounts in People Magazine and The National Enquirer
[edit]Back in'94, '95 and possibly '96. Manager Jerry Solomon at least 10 or 15 years older than her saw his "meal ticket" and left his wife and 6-year old son and married Nancy. His wife didnt go empty handed, sources reported a hefty divorce $ettlement from Solomon to her. Also these publication reported much friction between Nancy & Jerry, and Kerrigan's extended supportive blue collar family as the family felt "he took over her life". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.184.195 (talk) 23:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
'94 Olympics
[edit]Why is there so much more empahsis on her negative publicity than on her '94 Olympics experience? She (and the drama on the ice) commanded a huge share of the television audience in her home country, and she is at least as well known for the Games (getting clubbed, coming back and earning the silver) as for her unfortunate remarks afterward, whether or not they were misinterpreted. I'm no NK fan but the article should talk more about those Games, and the controversy over the results (personally I feel OB should've won, but that's a completely subjective opinion--I just liked her better :) 68.161.128.140 (talk) 04:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Edit to "1991-1992 competitions" section
[edit]I removed the following wording from the "1991-1992 competitions" section:
While Nancy was a beautiful skater, her spirals needed work. She couldn't perform one without the "kerrigan catch".
I know next to nothing about Nancy Kerrigan and merely happened across this article, so don't look to me to debate the merits of this, other than I'd strongly recommend that someone provide a verifiable source for this. According to Google, the phrase "Kerrigan catch" is only found on Wikipedia, and the fact there seems to be a style of figure skating spiral named after her doesn't tell me that spirals are her weak spot. Again, I'm not a fan of the sport, so if someone has evidence to refute this, please do so and feel free to update the article (with appropriate references). --Quintote (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
nancyfans.com
[edit]This website doesn't exist anymore. Does that affect its value as a citation? I don't know a policy about this. Thmazing (talk) 17:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Closing ceremony controversy
[edit]I can't find an internet source to back me up, but in a mini-documentary during the 1994 Ice Wars, they pointed out that Olympic officials had asked Kerrigan not to attend the closing ceremonies because they couldn't provide security for her and that she had received death threats. I just don't know how to source it. The video is on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iopX6YkD7Zk. I'll go ahead and add it, but hopefully someone can source it for me...24.125.150.215 (talk) 17:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Kerrigan image in HIV/AIDS YouTube video
[edit]There is a Youtube video in which a photo of Kerrigan is shown representing one of the girlfriends of Andre Chad Parenzee. Photos of Tonya Harding and Kristy Yamaguchi also stand in for his wife and another girlfriend, respectively. The filmmaker seems to regard the three as fair game. Was there some kind of pop-culture SNL-caliber attitude of hostility towards all three, and if so, should it and links to the video(s) representing it be included in their respective articles? BruceSwanson (talk) 20:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- Why is a Youtube video she had nothing to do with, and that is not even about her, notable or relevant to Nancy Kerrigan's life or career? Dr.frog (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
It isn't. But it might be relevant to her article (and Harding's and Yamaguchi's articles) if it's seen by enough people as a marker for some level of cultural hostility towards them as a group. As far as I'm concerned, fans of Kerrigan and Yamaguchi should demand the video be removed. BruceSwanson (talk) 22:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Harding incident in lead?
[edit]No strong feelings about this, but outside the relatively small world of figure-skating she is best known (sadly) for the Harding incident. Perhaps the lead should reflect this.Tigerboy1966 (talk) 16:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- Without question. The ledes in both this article and the Tanya Harding article end with the same vague sentence, as if the 1994 attack was a blip, when in fact it eclipsed both of their careers in terms of general notability. Skating fans might disagree, but without the attack the vast majority wouldn't give a hoot about either subject. Allreet (talk) 19:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh man this needs to be archived, considering since this threads post a Hollywood movie was made about this whole incident, shining a big light on the whole thing. EliteArcher88 (talk) 09:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Edit request on 26 January 2012
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Please add following citation to her inclusion to the Figure Skating Hall of Fame in 2004: http://www.worldskatingmuseum.org/Museum_HOF_Inductees.htm (This page, although titled "World Figure Skating Museum and Hall of Fame", is linked to from the United States Figure Skating Association website.)
Michael A. Goodfellow (talk) 01:56, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- Done, thank you--Jac16888 Talk 12:28, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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Edit warring
[edit]An editor named "Sometimes the sky is blue" has indicated that he/she would like to discuss an editing issue that has arisen in this article.
My sentence is the following:
"In April 2017, Kerrigan said she had had six miscarriages while attempting to have her three children. This had been "devastating" and a strain on her marriage.[61]"
Sometimes the sky is blue has repeatedly altered this, among other things by inserting the loaded and emotive verbs "suffered" and "endured" in place of the neutral "had".
Please feel free to discuss. Newzild (talk) 01:15, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- While I disagree with you that "suffered" or "endured" are loaded, other words, such as "went though", can be found in the name of compromise. This is what I did in this edit. Sometimes the sky is blue (talk) 02:11, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- There is no need to use "went through" when "had" is shorter.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Newzild (talk • contribs) 19:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- "Went through" better matches the experience of "devastation". Sometimes the sky is blue (talk) 20:26, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- And the word "experienced" is even better. Sometimes the sky is blue (talk) 20:58, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia style is to prefer verbs that are neutral, rather than emotive, and to prefer words that are shorter, rather than longer. An encyclopedia is not a tabloid newspaper and nor is it a platform for literary exercises. Newzild (talk) 19:53, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- There is no need to use "went through" when "had" is shorter.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Newzild (talk • contribs) 19:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Question about removal of Findagrave source to Daniel Kerrigan's death
[edit]I added a Findagrave source to the death of Daniel Kerrigan that was reverted because Findagrave is an unreliable source. I do not deny that Findagrave can be unreliable, but Findagrave links always appear in the External Links section of articles. Those links are not reverted, and I don't understand why a link within the article has to be reverted. Also, in the case of Daniel Kerrigan, his Findagrave link is backed up by the immediate previous source that shows his obituary. If the Findagrave link is known to be correct, I see no reason why it cannot be used within the article.Anthony22 (talk) 11:22, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- It can be used within the article - in the External Links section - but is generally considered unreliable; therefore, it's not a good idea to use it for inline citations. If you go back to the article and click on View History, you can see the edit summary I left. I left a link to the relevant guideline. Click on that, then scroll down to the name of the website for more explanation. Larry Hockett (Talk) 00:26, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
I have no clue
[edit]So hows it going 67.6.46.241 (talk) 03:43, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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