Talk:Akademie för uns Kölsche Sproch

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Sorry about the work that has now gone into the translation, but I still think this is non notable. I looked it up in the Cologne telephone register, and it doesn't even figure there Lectonar 07:42, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think I'm gonna go with a keep here. The title "Akademie för uns Kölsche Sproch" gets 1220 Google hits, not so bad. Though I do think the article could use expanding and improving, I don't think it needs to be deleted at this time. [[User:Consequencefree|Ardent ^†_∈]] 07:51, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I also think it should stay. It's been around since 1983, and they have a long list of books they've published. [1] Saintswithin 09:43, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Its website koelsch-akademie.de indeed suggests that it's notable. Unfortunately my German is so appallngly bad that I can't distinguish between (a) what they are doing or sponsoring themselves, and (b) what they're merely advocating that's by others. Also, Aktuelles disturbingly shows nothing since September. No vote from me quite yet. -- Hoary 09:54, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC) PS Keep for reasons above and below. -- Hoary 02:41, 2005 Jan 15 (UTC)

comment: I had a look at the website too...they are not sponsoring themselves per se, but there is a possibility that they don't exist anymore (that would correspond with the missing entry in the telephone register and the fact above) Lectonar 12:21, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to say I couldn't distinguish between (a) what they're doing by themselves and (b) what they are merely publicizing. Incidentally, if they don't exist any more, of course that in itself doesn't mean they're not notable. -- Hoary 12:38, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)

Sorry by me; I didn't mean to imply that the (speculated) non-existence does mean that there not notable; I (obviously) still got problems with establishing the border between 'noticeability'/'non-noticeability' (see ongoing discussions concerning 'Sollog' (You know what I mean) or the whole Ashlee Simpson thingy). I just don't know if anybody in the english wiki would ever look up the term Akademie för uns etc... Lectonar 13:12, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Re. existence: the last thing on "Aktuelles" says that they are about to move a couple of doors up the road, hence the non-appearance in the phone book and their failure to update the site. Saintswithin 19:38, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

They also just sent me an email saying they are alive and well! Saintswithin 09:18, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Definite keep. The academy stands as Herausgeber of several of the publications they sell.[2] They have also published recordings in dialect.[3] Apparently they also have archives and a library for Colognian dialect studies. That there is nothing new under Aktuelles just means that they haven't updated the website. A lot of respectable institutions neglect their websites occasionally. / up+land 13:50, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Seems more noteable than many pages here. Maybe the title should be translated into English. Martg76 17:01, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Merge into Kölsch (dialect) and redirect. It's mildly notable, but there's not enough info to provide an article. JoaoRicardo 20:11, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Keep. I agree there's not enough content, as of yet, but that can be fixed. In the meantime, stub it. Khanartist 21:05, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC)
Merge and redirectas suggested by JoaoRicardo above. I could only see a separate article (with English title??) if there were lots more material on the academy itself.Sc147 21:20, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Merge it and delete as above. Wyss 21:36, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Keep or merge, but I think this is a case where the title should not be translated. It is a proper noun, and to the best of my knowledge there is no standard English-language name for the organization. Certainly keep as a redirect a name someone might search on. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:05, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC)
Keep, no valid reason to delete - David Gerard 17:08, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Merge and redirect. Megan1967 23:25, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Delete it from English Wikipedia. There's a stub about the Akademie on de:, which is itself up for possible deletion. If this Akademie deserves a wiki-listing at all, I say it only deserves a German one. --Angr 16:57, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Keep not only because I translated it. I also don't think it should be merged with Kölsch (dialect) cause that one is a good article by itself. BigBen212 17:04, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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