Talk:Korla

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Korla article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Cities

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cities, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of cities, towns and various other settlements on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CitiesWikipedia:WikiProject CitiesTemplate:WikiProject CitiesWikiProject Cities articles

China Mid‑importance

	China portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of China related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ChinaWikipedia:WikiProject ChinaTemplate:WikiProject ChinaChina-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Central Asia Low‑importance

	Asia portal Korla is part of WikiProject Central Asia, a project to improve all Central Asia-related articles. This includes but is not limited to Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Tibet, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang and Central Asian portions of Iran, Pakistan and Russia, region-specific topics, and anything else related to Central Asia. If you would like to help improve this and other Central Asia-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.Central AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject Central AsiaTemplate:WikiProject Central AsiaCentral Asia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

disambiguation page needed

all of it what is it talking about?Geni 02:14, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

They're a race of alien characters from the Animorphs book series. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 03:20, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

korla are a species from the fictional series Animorphs Nicoleta (talk) 02:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weili or Yuli for Han name of Korla?

I noticed this morning that someone has kindly given the Chinese characters used for Korla during the Han Dynasty. However, they have also changed the romanisation to Yuli instead of Weili. Now, it is true that the character 尉 is sometimes transcribed as wei, and sometimes as yü, but we have no real way of telling how it was really pronounced in the Han dynasty. Probably the best guide we have at the moment is Karlgren's tentative reconstruction as: *i̯wəd. That is why I used Weili in my translation (also, it corresponds with Hulsewé and Loewe's use in their translation from the Hanshu). Additionally, as this section of the text is taken from my translation of the chapter from the Hou Hanshu, I would be grateful if Weili was used here. If you are not happy with this - please discuss your reasons for changing it further. Thanks, John Hill 23:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's me who modified the entry about the pronunciation of 尉. However, I was born in the Korla region and I have some friends who came from 尉犁. For the Chinese Character "尉", we always call it as "yü4" as well as what we called for the Chinese surname/family name "尉迟".

Please reference the link of online Xinhua Dictionary(新华字典) about the Chinese Character "尉". http://xh.5156edu.com/show.php?id=4918

I found a Chinese essay to comment on the pronunciation of "尉" in the word "尉犁". This is also a good reference. http://club.xjts.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=23612

Thanks, Evan Zhu

Dear Evan: Thank you for your thoughtful notes and useful references. You are, of course, quite right that the character 尉 in the name 尉犁 is now pronounced "yü4", but all the information available indicates that, during the Han dynasty, it was pronounced more like modern wei4 li2 than like yü4 li2. As we know pronunciations change (often quite rapidly) over time and it is impossible to be sure how the name was actually pronounced so long ago but, if you have a look at the reference you gave me to: http://club.xjts.cn/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=23612, it states quite clearly that the name originated from the word 'wei' meaning a military officer, but this was changed later to 'yü'. So, although the modern name is correctly given as Yü4 li2, it is probably best to leave the representation of the Han name as 'Weili' (without the tonal values - as it is not possible to know what tones were used during the Han). Please, though, if you still disagree with me - don't hesitate to write again - I want to be sure I've got this right. With best wishes, John Hill (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bayin'gholin larger than France?

Impossible. The area of France is 674,843 square kilometers, while that of Bayin is 462,700. How can it be larger than France?

K.F. Chor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.246.245.200 (talk) 06:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kuerle and Ku'erle

According to the rules we use for mainland China, as with Xi'an etc, the Hanyu Pinyin derived name for Korla should be Ku'erle (with apostrophe 隔音符号). However, there are articles that spell it as Kuerle instead (without apostrophe 隔音符号). [1] [2] [3]. I am not sure whether this should be added in some capacity to this page to alert readers that they may encounter this spelling. We have a 2006-created redirect [4]. Geographyinitiative (talk) 20:27, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Geographyinitiative: Yes, the pinyin name Ku'erle and pinyin-derived name Kuerle are significant alternative names, (at least) one of which should be mentioned in the first line. The current altnames of Kurla, Kurle, and Kuerlei also need refs if they're to stay in the article. — MarkH₂₁^talk 20:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have preliminarily added this information to the article. I am not familiar with this area, but I agree. Geographyinitiative (talk) 20:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MarkH21: In this edit, you removed a name that was easily provable as a name for this location [5]. Please be mindful that unsourced material may be valid sometimes. The deletion was permissible, but the information deleted was actually sourcable. Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]