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Music

Some time ago I saw a volksmusik programme on one of the German television channels.

It was of people singing in various picturesque settings in Regensburg.

One female singer sang a song walking around the grounds of what may have been a Bishop's palace and there was a rather nice statue of a man (a medieval bishop?) feeding two geese.

Is anyone familiar with this please? Is there a story associated with the statue?

If so, it might make a good addition to the page and, if possible, may be worthy of an illustration.

Songwriter 15:33 6 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hi!

I live in Regensburg, however I'm not familiar with such a statue. Are sure the film was taken on location in Regensburg?? (Michael.chlistalla 22:22, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC))

There is such a statue at Regensburg in the 'Bischofshof' (bishop's court) right behind the cathedral. The notable thing about the statue is that when looking at it from the one side, it pictures a bishop feeding geese, but when looking at the back of the statue, one can see that the bishop is really a fox in disguise that already has a dead goose in his jaws.

I do not know the official story behind it, but I was told that the statue expresses people's unhappiness with the exploitation of the common folk by the bishop.

Hi, I've been a city guide in Regensburg. The statue referres to a story called the "Gänsepredigt" (geese sermon). It's about a fox that wanted to hunt geese, but they allways escaped, so he used a trick - he disguised as a preacer and started preaching to the geese until they fell asleep, so he could catch one of them. This tale should warn people against false preachers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.8.27.44 (talk) 22:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it didn't originally involve the bishops; but Fox/ Friar imagery is an widespread medieval satire against mendicant Friars - the Friars were often depicted as Foxes who would lure their congregations to hell with their persuasive patter. The rear shows their true nature: seizing the geese. The imagery is found in a lot of medieval marginalia, and in a lot of medieval Church woodcarvings - particularly 15th Century Misericords. Note - the Friar is also fat (on the offerings of the poor) - think of Robin Hood's Friar Tuck. It's definitely a warning about false teaching.

Sugar factory

Odd, why isn't the sugar factory mentioned in the "Economy" section? When I lived there (15 years ago) its smokestack dominated the region. http://www.suedzucker.de/unternehmen/standorte/regensburg/ NeilFraser 18:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Answer: It has closed. I was just there. NeilFraser (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Translation request

Lol improve it by translating from latin ? Just translate the german site. What a horrible idear.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.56.117.238 (talk) 17:40, 11 June 2006

Ratisbon

It seems a bit wrong to say that the English name was "formerly Ratisbon", - that was the French name, which the English borrowed. I'm not sure the best way to clarify. john k 22:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, formerly English used the French name, now it uses the German name. Actually, there are rather a lot of German cities for which English formerly used the French name: Aix-la-Chapelle for Aachen, Mayence for Mainz, Trèves for Trier, etc. For Cologne we still do use the French name. Angr 12:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not very clever on that: a name similar to "Ratisbon" would have been used not just in English and French but in Latin as well (widely used in church and scholarly circles before the Victorian period). Arguably, it is nearly as anachronistic to call pre-19th century Ratisbon "Regensburg" as it would be to call 6th-century Constantinople "Istanbul". The article would do better to set a sensible cut-off date and use "Ratisbon" consistently for the early period. Deipnosophista (talk) 20:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, it surely makes little sense to put 'English: Ratisbon' at the top of the article without further qualification, since no native English-speaker in this day and age would call it that, or have any idea where it is - I'm fairly well-read, and I didn't know either. For all intents and purposes the place has been known in English as 'Regensburg' for all of my life, and I'm 64. I'm aware of the 1684 'Truce of Ratisbon', but always wondered where it had been signed - it would never have occurred to me that it was a German city, but the name doesn't suggest any other specific language either. I wouldn't even be sure how to pronounce it: RAT-is-bon? Rat-IS-bon (like Lisbon)? Rat-is-BON? None of the above?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.127.210.95 (talk) 16:38 & :40, 6 June 2016‎

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--Jerzy•t 18:45, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This thread seems not quite to have reached a conclusion, but at any rate there is nobody here saying that we should say Ratisbon is the English form, so I will assume consensus on that at least, and change this in the article. --Doric Loon (talk) 12:06, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree at this late date it is inaccurate to say Ratisbon is the English form. English has used Regensburg for a long time. It may have overlapped with Ratisbon as late as the 19th century or even into the 20th, but it's still archaic. User Angr in 2006 was correct to note English formerly used many French names for locations in Germany, and has dropped all but one or perhaps a few. Cologne would also be my only example in mind for one we still use. 18th century treaties are full of Ratisbon and Aix-la-Chapelle, but after that not so much. Speculation- this habit declined with the slowly declining dominance of French as the language of European diplomacy and international elite culture and the decline of the French orientation of English elites [which was quite strong even with centuries of war] in the 19th century. There would also have been a corresponding decline in the French cultural influence over western and southern Germany with the advent of romanticism and German nationalism and the experience of the Napoleonic wars, a period in which German elites started to abandon some Gallicisms they had used themselves, and in which British elites sympathized with the Germans. Broadly speaking, political and cultural change driving changes in ancient usages. One thing it was probably not, from the British point of view, was a deliberate decision to adopt indigenous names for the sake of it. It would be interesting to see evidence of any shift in usage in German literary sources- this would perhaps be made difficult because if there is such, it could reflect a decision to Germanize the name or just the fact that the writers were now writing in their native language rather than in French, so using a German form rather than the French one. Random noter (talk) 18:21, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pope Benedict XVI residency

It says that Pope Benedict XVI has never been a resident of Regensburg while he taught theology at the University of Regensburg from 1969 to 1977. It's totally non-sense because if he taught there for 8 years, it means he actually lived there. Therefore, I suggest that this part of the article be revised.136.183.231.42 01:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)Shady19[reply]

He probably commuted. This site [1] claims he lived in Pentling, where he still owns a house. Chl 04:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but Pentling is a suburb of Regensburg. The people there do have slight separatist tendencies, but the fact remains that it is built up all the way out. You can walk from Pentling to the university in 10 minutes. Locally, Pentling is now being referred to as Popeville! --Doric Loon 17:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pentling is in Regensburg Landkreis. However this article is about the city itself, and not the Landkreis which is here Regensburg (district) so I think it is correct to say here that he did not live in Regensburg. Thehalfone 16:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am from Pentling and yes, he lifed here and still owns a house here. Pentling is pretty close to Regensburg and the University. Still Pentling is a small village of its own with its own administration/major. The 10 minutes walk to the University is a huge exageration by the way. 84.57.120.254 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Schweinfurt-Regensburg mission

I need some help here regarding the Schweinfurt-Regensburg mission. The factory/factories must have been outside town, as the site for the raid sugests heavy damage, while the site for Regensburg, the town, says that it escaped the war more or less unscathed. I'm way out of my field here. Can someone give a location for the factories relative to the town center and elaborate on Regensburg during the war. Other than the link I just added, there is no mention.4.249.186.40 01:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The Messerschmitt Factories were located about 5km west of the towncentre, often reffered to the big cathedral. They were surrounded by lots of houses and situated 1.5km to a big hospital (Barmherzige Brüder - "Mercyful Brothers"). So one can say, it is a full load of luck for the town itself, that it hasnt been damaged during the airraid. Thus, you can even today find some craters in the direction the raid has been done. For example, in the near woods of the suburb Prüfening, which are now often used for some mountainbiking fun.

Outside the town were numerous trenches and positions of the SS, mostly very young boys and very old men, standing their orders to defend the city. The US Army fired from the opposite side of the donau river, high in the hills of the "Vogelsang" (near the Village Sinzing) to the positions in the walls and hills in the outskirt "Prüfening" and "Pentling". My Grandmother told me, that she was taken by a teacher with all her schoolfellows outside the town to camp and sleep near a barn because they feared another airraid these days. A few hundred meters behind the barn she said, were trenches full with by artillery fire humilated corpses of german soldiers...The city was later overhanded without a single battle to the allied troops. That was mainly arranged by three citizens, one of them was a priest. Sadly, the allies still didnt have the city under full control so the 3 "traitors" where the very next day publicely executed at the "Dachau-Platz" by a few remaining fanatics. The Messerschmitt areal has been for about 50 years completely closed down for the public (a low wood has grown over it, which was fenced) and for rebuilding-actions because of the danger of unexploded bombs. In the last fiftteen years, the area has been cleared and is now covered with buildings like a bank, a school and several houses. If you look at the citymap, for example under http://stadtplan.regensburg.de/stadtplan.html, head to the west of the city. Between the railroad and the donau river is the "Siemens-Osram-Infineon"-Complex. This complex and the nearby "Lilienthalstrasse" and the "Prüfeningstrasse" merely sourround the Messerschmitt-Areal. The "Donaupark" is the area of the former Messerschmitt Airfield. At the local Work-Education-School ("Matthäus Runtinger Berufschule") is a small monument for the over 150 young pupils of that school, who have died in the bombingraid (together with lots of war prisoners). Today, still a lot of streets in Regensburg are named after flying aces of WorldWar1 or 2 or after aircraft-ingenieurs. For example: Udetstrasse, Lillienthalstrasse, Richthofenstrasse, Boelkestrasse, Immelmanstrasse, Heinkelstrasse, Charles Lindbergh Strasse or Messerschmittstrasse, to name a few.

Thanks for this excellent write-up. I wish you had provided your name so I could thank you by name. I used to live in the area and would have appreciated that info when I was there. I guess I just have to go back to visit one of my favorite cities. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 14:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms

Why does Regensburg get twice as many keys as Bremen?

Sca (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The keys are the symbols of Saint Peter, patron of both the city of Regensburg and its cathedral. The same holds for the Coat of arms of Bremen, but according to de:Simon Petrus, in the late Middle Ages Petrus was often depicted with two keys rather than one, symbolising both worldly and heavenly power. In this sense one might say, the difference means that Regensburg's coat of arms is younger than Bremen's. See also Keys of Heaven. --FordPrefect42 (talk) 18:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Text needing translation

I just removed this text from the lead, which was added by an IP: "Fyn deetsk, Regensburg bedøjkdiþ "Rainstborough" op engelsk, wæra da numma yberghesætte betwixt den sproakken." I'm not sure what language this is in - it doesn't look like any I recognise. Can anyone provide a translation? Robofish (talk) 16:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be boarisch, but I can't translate it. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 14:45, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Austro-Bavarian name???

Shouldn't the Austro-Bavarian name "Rengschburg" be removed and replaced by a IPA transcription? Austro-Bavarian does not have a codified spelling and the transliteration "Rengschburg" really only works for German readers. WRatzka (talk) 23:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name

When was the town first named "Regensburg" ? --Lysy^talk 15:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regensburg derived from Castra Regina, which dates to c 170AD (German wiki page for Regensburg). The local Celts then called the city Radasbona, which is the other name for the city. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 14:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Radasbona

As far as I know the name Radasbona first appears in Arebo of Freising's "Vita et passio Sancti Haimhrammi Martyris" which was written in the 8th century. How can it be proofed that the name is in fact Celtic and predates the Roman names? It's never mentioned in Roman sources, they called it Regino or Castra Regina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.13.248.42 (talk) 18:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OTTI

I suggest more info about OTTI. --Hamiltha (talk) 09:50, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

Why isn't the flag of Regensburg in the infobox? It is commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Regensburg.png 82.141.127.112 (talk) 10:48, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

==Politics section

For what it is worth: I came to read on Regensburg due to a job offer and greatly missed a section on the political landscape of the town, election results, etc- Thanks for you hard work and cheers, wikipedians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.133.234 (talk) 09:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changes since 20th march

Hi,

as i edited the article over the last 2-3 days and being no mother tongue, I would be gratefull if somebody could read through the text for language reasons, and improve it as well.

By the way: no worries about the culture section, i will fill in some facts over the next days.

thanks, Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.41.137.182 (talk) 12:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I miss the rokokochurch Alte Kapelle. Basilica minor. --2003:D3:F12:EA41:51A1:BB59:7FBC:3F8 (talk) 08:24, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed image

I have removed this image from the Regensburg article because I strongly believe it has been incorrectly named as being of Joseph Hanisch (cathedral organist) when there is no evidence to support this assertion. I have also removed the illustration from the article on Hanisch. My concerns are outlined in the image's Discussion page on Wikimedia. I would like to be proved wrong, but believe the sensible approach is to not use the image until such time as some explanation or further evidence is forthcoming from the page creator @Sf9621:, or elsewhere. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:00, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Demographics

The table for foreign population does not even add up as given here;

Nation Population (2018)

Romania	2,530
Bulgaria	1,765
Turkey	1,570
Iraq	1,350
Kosovo	1,210

Total : 27,865

Those numbers add up to 8,425, a lot less than 27,865.

Anyone have better numbers that add up ready to hand? Random noter (talk) 18:23, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Move

@Timeshifter: move the page with a strange and wrong argument. I contradict clearly to this move which is by the way completely inconsistent to all other city names. Timeshifter, please revert your edit immediately. thanks! --Nillurcheier (talk) 09:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]