Talk:Mowag Piranha

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I am pretty sure that the liscense is with General Motors of Canada, not General Dynamics. And, while we are at it, who is General Failure, and why is he trying to read my disk?

Merging information from the Piranha Vehicle

There was an article entitled Piranha Vehicle -- which is probably a better name than Mowag Piranha. There should, IMO, be only one article. This article was older, had a longer edit history, and had other articles linking to it, so I tried to merge in the info that was in the Piranha Vehicle article that wasn't in this article. -- Geo Swan 17:38, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

lav 3 OR LAV III etc

This topic is a bit of a mess. New Zealand has purchased 100+ LAV3 variants/derivatives of the Piranha but searching Wikipedia, you find various hits with little information to make sense of this family of AFV's. Think it a least needs 'LAV3' linked into LAV III topic.

I will try & update the topic sometime, but I am still new to Wikipedia editing.

I've uploaded a few photos, made available by DND. —Michael Z. 2005-10-2 06:06 Z

It would help to have photos of the other variants, i.e. 4x4, 6x6 and 10x10, because all I see right now are pics of the 8x8 type. Noha307 (talk) 21:08, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So Many copies.

I was reading The Encyclopedia Of Tanks And Armoued Fighting Vehicles,and I noticed that there were allot of APC and AFVs that seem to be based on the Mohwag Piranha. I will try to add them to Wikipedia when I get the chance Dudtz 5/9/06 4:17 PM EST

UK & Piranha V

Might be worth noting the new Piranha V has been selected as part of the British armies £16b FRES programme. Which should result in the UK acquiring some 1000+ vehicles. They will be fitted with the Swedish ADS active protection system and possibly UK DSTL's new electrically charged armour.

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LAV-25 and ASLAV should be part of the Piranha II family.

It seems that the Canadian AVGP aka LAV I was the only licensed-built Piranha I derivative. The LAV-25 was actually derived from the LAV II.

http://www.tanknutdave.com/component/content/article/104

This source claimed the LAV II and LAV III are separate developments by GDLS Canada and not licensed MOWAG Piranha II and Piranha III derivatives. I'd wait for more confirmation on that information however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.182.85 (talk) 09:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GM/GM Defence/GDLS have stated in the past (link no longer available) that all versions after the AVGP were in-house designs. TankNutDave makes it quite clear in this link:

https://tanknutdave.com/the-wheeled-piranha-a-lav-family/

https://web.archive.org/web/20190630000638/https://tanknutdave.com/the-wheeled-piranha-a-lav-family/

Codesmith (talk) 01:49, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Codesmith, I don't know who tanknutdave is. But I think the record is clear that the AVGP were designs derived, under license, from Mowag. The excellent Canadian American Strategic Review, published out of Simon Fraser University, sadly no longer online, covered the history of the AVGP and later 8 wheeled Mowag licensed derivatives, in detail. Geo Swan (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Geo Swan TankNutDave is collection of interested observers. Past that, I have only conversed with them via emails. I did work at GDLS (London) when it was still GM Defence in the early 1990s, and with the caveat of this being 'original research' the LAV series were all in-house designs. The CASR archive is available via The Internet Archive https://web.archive.org/web/20161029221817/http://www.casr.ca/index.htm and having just wandered through it I can find no references to the history of the AVGP - LAV - LAV II - LAV III. Seeing as we have a clearly posted web article addressing this, I believe that the refences to MOWAG should be removed from all LAV II and LAV III articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codesmith (talk • contribs) 15:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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