Talk:Absolute pitch

Addition

I don’t know if this page has heard of him but a certain violinist named Eddy Chen also has well defined perfect pitch. Feel like he should be added tbh. 2001:8003:3322:CC00:B565:AF71:4C86:F2FE (talk) 12:30, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Not done for now: Did you see the top of this page? While he might have perfect pitch, it has not been documented yet on official sources, and therefore cannot be added to Wikipedia, as our policies say that "Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it". See here for a bunch of similar requests - they were all denied. Liamyangll (talk to me!) 06:20, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Completely incorrect

. . . but, of course, the gods of Wikipedia write-protect the article.

ABSOLUTE pitch is the ability to identify a note played. It is quite rare.

PERFECT pitch is the ability to sing a note named. It is profoundly rare.

They are BY NO MEANS the same.

I know because I have both, as did my mother, as did her father. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:14B:4301:AF90:B975:3A2D:C3EF:8CB (talk) 23:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

A citation for this would be helpful. Chlod (say hi!) 23:22, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

You are going to be severely disappointed after you read this University of Chicago article. X-750 _{Rust In Peace... Polaris} 15:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

I couldn't tell you whether or not that is how they are technically defined, although I do use the two terms in the same way. However, absolute pitch is not particularly rare among classically trained musicians - we're in the minority, sure, but most orchestras will have more than one - and most people that have absolute pitch in a general sense (i.e. they can identify sinewaves, not just, say, the individual notes on a clarinet, as they all sound totally different to each other) also have perfect pitch. Anditres (talk) 21:29, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Introduction's claim that absolute pitch implies/entails relative pitch

As an absolute pitch haver this seems very dubious. I would go as far as to say that because of having had absolute pitch my entire life, I have *no* relative pitch: if I want to work out an interval, I can't do it without first (automatically) identifying the two notes and then secondly (consciously) calculating the distance between them. The only exceptions are unison and octaves; even a perfect fifth is going to have me first identifying the notes. As I understand it, this is very common for people with absolute pitch (but I have no source hence the talk page post instead of just editing the article) Anditres (talk) 21:26, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

This is definitely incorrect, and contradicts the citation that's given at the end of the paragraph. "However, AP and RP are actually very different modes of musical pitch processing, having incompatible features, and therefore it may be possible that one can interfere the development of the other, and vice versa." I'll amend it. - Rainwarrior (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Example in introduction does not seem to support the initial definition

First it says: "Absolute pitch (AP), often called perfect pitch, is the ability to identify or re-create a given musical note without the benefit of a reference tone."

Later it says "For example, an AP possessor can accurately reproduce a heard tone on a musical instrument without 'hunting' for the correct pitch"

In the example, the AP possessor has been given a reference tone.

It seems like there's a lot of arguing about what the definition of absolute pitch or perfect pitch should be, but I will just say that that example along with the definition does not help me understand . Yellowpelican (talk) 21:46, 5 February 2024 (UTC)