reads like nonsense (i.e. "opium laced cheese"). Can't verify via google. Maximus Rex 04:10, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Agree. Sounds like nonsense, 8 google hits for "John Nebthos", the link provided is highly suspect, etc. Delete unless someone can verify this in more detail. -- Chris 73 | Talk 04:23, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Actually, it's a cleverly disguised advert. At the external link we learn that Josh H. Betonn (anagram of John Nebthos) is the creator of the site. On a subpage [1] we learn that this is a riddle that is supposed to be solved, and looks like pre-release hype for something. Delete advert. SWAdair | Talk 06:33, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Interestingly, the article content doesn't match the history given at the external site. I was able to find a few people, and one ship, named Ivan Nesterov, but none match the article content. SWAdair | Talk 07:01, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
And for the finale: the article states that Nebthos submitted the copyright symbol in a US-government sponsored contest around the year 1841. Actually, UNESCO introduced the symbol in 1952 at the Universal Copyright Convention [2]. The symbol was later adopted by the US when the US codified its own copyright laws. This article is complete nonsense. SWAdair | Talk 07:35, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Delete. I live in the Louisville area, and I suspect that if there was a local historic brothel keeper who invented the copyright symbol, I'd have heard of it by now. Smerdis of Tlön 14:02, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Looks like fabrication. Delete and BJAODN unless someone confirms this. Andris 00:16, Jun 10, 2004 (UTC)
Comment. Someone just attempted to remove the vfd tag from the article. Andris 01:55, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
He also removed the external link, and now he's removed all reference to the copyright symbol. Looks like this guy is systematically removing everything which is being brought up here as evidence that the article is nonsense. —Stormie 02:34, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
Delete, I'm convinced that it is nonsense. —Stormie 02:34, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
Don't be so quick to rush to judgement. Nebthos is a very mysterious actual historic figure. Go to a library some time! —Wrendelgeth 02:45, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
You'll be providing us with some references then, I trust? —Stormie 03:05, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
I added a link to a page with some interesting information. The John Nebthos discussed on the page is the same person, even though it is contradictory to the wiki I wrote. I have been working on reconciling the information contained therein to my information that I retrieved from a book I picked up in a used book store in Turkey. It's called "Along the Volga" and is written in English and is about notable characters who grew up along the Volga river (obviously), but I can't find any ISBN numbers or anything which I suppose makes it suspect... I just found the character curious and made a wiki about him. And the website I assumed had something to do with him, though it doesn't explicitly say anything about his person. That is why I removed the link. Anyway, I'm trying to get a more accurate representation of who the man was... he's very fascinating. Wrendelgeth 3:25, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
Comment: [3] webmaster of whoisjohnnebthos.com encouraging community members to oppose this Vote For Deletion. —Stormie 03:09, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
Someone deleted the VFD header. I've re-added it. RickK 05:03, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)
Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Wikipedian (yeah, I know - some of you guys are ashamed to be associated with me. No comments from the non-paying customers, please). This is so patently a hoax that the solemn tones of skepticism from some here cause me to wonder if you do not take even such an august and noble effort too seriously. I think this is a great article for an alternate universe Wikipedia, and should survive in BJAODN if nowhere else. I regret that I must recommend we delete it here. Denni 02:21, 2004 Jun 12 (UTC)
But there were complaints on the mailing list recently that people on VfD were mocking the authors of articles-to-be-deleted. Hence the solemn tones of skepticism here. :-) —Stormie 04:55, Jun 13, 2004 (UTC)
If the article eventually is moved to BJAODN, take this debate along with it. :-) SWAdair | Talk 03:18, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Ugh, it's disinformation spam for one of those damned artsy hidden link and cryptic flash movie sites [4]. Delete. -- Cyrius|✎ 05:26, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
JNEBTHOS -- I apolgize for my lack of editing knowledge of this site... Firstly... I had no idea a site like this exsist I find it to be a novel concept... Secondly, I had no knowledge of the posting of the article in question, which was posted by one of our more "over zealous" members of WIJN; I told the WIJN community about it because I found it rather humorous... So, please do not feel this was a selfless promotion gimck. =] Anyways... I understand you all try your best to purge false articles, and props to you... it must be a hard job... But I would like to ask you visit our site and see whats going on there... And possibly leaving this article in your wikipedia, for the simple reason, That on the Internet, John Nebthos does exsist and does have a history. I would also be open to the alternate universe proposal by Denn, if this can not be done... Reguardless... Im going to had your wonderful website to our link directory and inform the community of this site's exsistance... And in turn I would hope this article could remain on the wikipedia with some proper additions to the article to make it more valid for your wikipedia.... thank you for your time... JNEBTHOS -SITE ADMIN "WIJN"
