Talk:Ung County

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Why are you using Hungarian names of counties, which lie in Slovakia? Kingdom of Hungary was not Hungarian country, but country of Slovaks, Croatian, Ruthenians, Hungarians, Romanians, Germans atc.

If we are writing about counties of Kingdom of Hungary, but they lie in Slovakia, we have to use slovak names, not hungarians.

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It's better to move a page than to simply copy and paste it somewhere else, because now all the history of the entry is still at the "Ung" entry. Please fix this. Besides, I don't think "Uh County" is the most appropriate title for the entry, since most of the county is now in Ukraine (which promotes "Uzh county"), and it was a Hungarian county (which promotes the original "Ung"). Markussep 13:35, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I can agree more with Uzh county as Ung. It wasn´t Hungarian county, but county of Kidgdom of Hungary. And it was multinations Kindgom as you certainly know. So, in my opinion, we have to use a name of appropriate nations (Uh or Uzh, but absolutely no Ung).

O.K. I will never again copy a page, I am sorry. I don ´t know it about history of page.--Kristo 17:01, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'll fix the history etc. and rename the page "Uzh county". You're right about the Kingdom of Hungary being a "rainbow" nation, but Latin, and starting from the 19th century Hungarian were the administrative languages. Since the county's population was probably mostly Ukrainian or Ruthenian for most of its existence, I choose Uzh. I'll leave our little discussion here for generations to come ;-) Markussep 11:33, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hungarian was officially language of Kingdom from the 60´s of 19th century. But I agree that Uzh is better than Uh or Ung.--Kristo 09:18, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hi,

You should not let nationalism talk out of you. We are trying to build a factual and objective encyclopedia. Noone challenges the fact, that the territory of the historical county Ung is now Ukrainian Territory (it was als Czechoslovak territory from 1920-ca.1940, from 1945 it was Soviet territory, since the 90's Ukrainian, but never Slovak, btw.)

But this very article is about the historical administrative county of the historical Kingdom of Hungary (which noone wants to reinstall!). There the county was never called Uh or Uzh.

Therefore int this historical context, both the title of the article and the name in the article should be named in Hungarian: the only correct historical form.

btw, ther has never been a Slovak or Ukrainian name for the county. Of course, there has been a name for the river, which gave its name to the county as well, but that's just a side-fact. -- Szabi 13:16, 5 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]